Wild Speculation - What if the console wars ended differently?

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  • Skunkworks
    Valiant
    • Feb 2024
    • 163

    Wild Speculation - What if the console wars ended differently?

    Veterans of the First (?) Console Wars,

    We remember the disruption that the battle between Nintendo and Sega wrecked on 90s video game advertisement. We often lament the friendships lost over arguments about what 'blast processing' actually meant. But we rarely reflect on the ramification of a different outcome and a dominant Sega in the early 2000s. The most obviously and most commonly mentioned outcome is the Xbox likely would not exist since the Dreamcast team contributed to its development. Here is my speculative list. Please correct me or add context where needed
    • Nintendo would have a closer relation to Sony (ala SNES CD addon).
    • Alex Kid would have gotten an unsuccessful reboot (I know there is a switch version). Echo the Dolphin would be a vibrant 2nd tier character franchise.
    • We would finally have more Chu Chu Rocket.
    • Edgier games (Mutant League Football, Time Killers, etc.) would have dominated the early 2000s, but would be largely extinct now.
    • Sonic 06 (and Lyric and probably more supbar Sonic game) would have never happened.
    • Sega Tower would still be thriving, and arcade culture would be stronger.
    • Sega would have ultimately lost the next console war to Sony.
    I'm curious what wild thoughts everyone else has on this topic.
  • Skunkworks
    Valiant
    • Feb 2024
    • 163

    #2
    As an aside - I remember my local Kmart always stocking far more Sega products than Walmart. Was this a local phenomenon or did everyone have a similar experience?

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    • The Grimace
      Valiant
      • Mar 2024
      • 172

      #3
      It might have been local. I often remember hearing that the Mega Drive was a lot more popular than the SNES in Europe, for whatever reason. As for the Genesis being more popular in some places of the US, I can only imagine it being a regional thing or stores havong done studies to see what's more popular in certain areas. Nothing concrete. I'd see pretty equal Nintendo and Sega products, and then Sony too when the PlayStation released.

      I think I saw a while back that someone had modded one of the prototype Nintendo PlayStations to play games, but that seems more a fun novelty than anything.

      Either way, I think Nintendo would continue to be safe in the market thanks to their strong first party titles, regardless of who they teamed up with. I do think Sega would ultimately have won the war, but I imagine another company would eventually throw their hat into the ring.

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      • Random Encounter
        Administrator
        • Jan 2024
        • 513

        #4
        I do wonder how things would have been different if Sega's American and Japanese branches worked together better. Ax the 32X (and as much as it pains me to say it, the Sega CD) and they could have maintained the goodwill and capital to make the Saturn more of a success. That, and Nintendo not screwing over Sony on the SNES CD, would definitely have made for a different landscape. Would Microsoft have still bothered to enter a market like that?

        I don't really have any answers here, but it's fun to think about.

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        • Skunkworks
          Valiant
          • Feb 2024
          • 163

          #5
          Originally posted by Random Encounter
          Ax the 32X (and as much as it pains me to say it, the Sega CD) and they could have maintained the goodwill and capital to make the Saturn more of a success.
          I'm fully onboard with the idea of culling the systems that gave Sega the reputation of not supporting their hardware after launch, but I'm not sure the Saturn would ever have been a winning move. I feel like so many of the Saturn's issue are related difficulty for developers. Maybe a larger install base would have forced more developers to the system. Interesting things to think about!

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          • Random Encounter
            Administrator
            • Jan 2024
            • 513

            #6
            The Saturn also had wonky transparencies and a CPU architecture that, like you said, it was a dick to program for. But I think giving your developers the confidence that you'll back your product would have helped them a ton.

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            • Random Encounter
              Administrator
              • Jan 2024
              • 513

              #7
              Speaking of the Saturn, here is a really in-depth look at its architecture:

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              • Destian
                Valiant
                • Jan 2024
                • 52

                #8
                It's so crazy to think that Sega of Japan and Sega of America were basically working against each other...

                This is why Nintendo keeps such a stranglehold on their US operations.

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